Turkiye and Russia in EU?

Turkiye & Russia in EU?

Russia’s and Turkiye’s placement

Turkiye or any country can not get an immediate participation in EU. This has never happened before. It could get a promise for participation at an unspecified future date which could be very far. If that happens, Turkiye's image will be completely destroyed all over the world and especially in the Muslim world. It will be proven that all this time, they were ONLY DESPERATELY BEGGING to BECOME EU MEMBERS.

They will also prove right all those that objected Turkiye's participation in EU or Eastern European Group 4. Among other things they were saying that they can't be trusted. All Muslim countries will not trust them anymore. It is one thing being in the same group with Russia and Balkan countries and another being in the same Group with France, UK, Germany, and other Celtic and Germanic countries.

Participation in Group 4 will allow Turkiye to keep good relations with Muslim countries. It will not be able to play an important role in the Muslim World, like if it participated in Muslim Group 8 with Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan. Still it will play an important role in the Group's relations with the two Muslim Groups, Arabic 5 and 8. It will not be the same if Turkiye participates in EU.

This is the worst scenario for Turkiye's relations with Muslim countries. There are four options for Turkiye regarding this matter, starting from the best and going to the worst; a) in Group 8 with Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan b) trading partner in Group 4 c) member in Group 4 d) member in EU. The first (a) is a good alternative and the last (d) is a bad one. The middle two are medium with b being a little better than c.

So far Turkiye doesn't seem to be entirely unconcerned regarding relations with Muslim countries. On the contrary, this seems to be a matter that has much interest and great value for them. They could play a very important role in Muslim world, only if they are in a Muslim group. Since Group 5 is Arabic, they can only participate in Group 8 with Iran - Pakistan - Afghanistan.

Participating in Group 4 will allow them to keep good terms with Muslim countries but without playing an important role. Trading partner status will give them a little more autonomy and in this way somewhat more important role in the Muslim World but still not as much important as if they participated in an all Muslim Group. Participation in EU is a really bad alternative for their relations with Muslim countries.

Muslim countries rightfully will not trust them and will not give much attention to them. Turkiye will not become an enemy for Muslim countries but indifferent, like it doesn't exist. It will be a pariah (outcast) for Muslims. In this way it will be weakened since part of its strength derives from relations with Muslim countries. Plus participation in EU is meaningless since EU will not last very long. Turkiye's participation will assist EU's disbandment. But damage to Turkiye will be done for ever.

There is a scenario for Russia to participate in EU. The chances for Russia being separately from Eastern Europe are 0%. Of course, if Russia participates in EU, it will be together with Eastern Europe. That option has very many problems and is entirely rejected. EU is extremely problematic, chaotic as it is. Russia is not in good terms with Celtic and Germanic countries. Being in the same group with them will only add many more problems.

In addition, Russia being separately from Eastern Europe is not the only problem in NWO's disastrous plan. For Turkiye is not impossible to be separately from Eastern Europe, as it is for Russia. If Russia is in EU, most likely Turkiye will be. So EU's population will go to more than 850 million. That will be much more than the rest of the Groups. According to AntiNWO's compromise solution, groups have roughly the same population.

Northern America Group 1 will have to be together with Southern and Central American Group 2. Their population will be roughly 1 billion. This will create many problems. It is manageable if USA - Canada have to deal only with one country that is different, Mexico. One option would be if USA - Canada are members in Group 1 and Mexico is a trading partner.

If they have to deal with more than 30 different countries, it would be much more difficult. It is better for both North American Group 1 and Central - Southern American Group 2, if they are separately. Then they can make all kinds of agrements between the two groups. The same is true for Western and Eastern European groups. It is better for both of them to be separately and establish relations with various agreements.

EU's model is extremely faulty. A much better organizational model is ready for Eastern European Group 4 (or Eastern - Southern if Italy participates). That is expected to be the standard for most groups. If Group 4 doesn't proceed and instead countries join damned EU, the model can't be implemented and prove to be a success. Also the economic plan is ready for Group 4.

Countries will have high growth rates and reach Western Europe's per capita income very soon. In EU this will not be possible. Productivity improvements will be needed and this can't happen in EU. Celtic and Germanic countries have reserved high productivity sectors and left low productivity sectors for the rest of the countries. Most countries are harmed by their participation in EU, especially poorer ones, which happen to be Eastern European countries.

So in reality it is exactly the opposite from the NWO - EU's convergence deception. Eastern European countries can only converge with Celtic and Germanic countries, if they have high growth rates. This can only happen if they are in a different group. German Wannabes (Poland, Czech Republic, Baltic countries) proved to be extremely foolish and threw away a great chance to reach Germany's per capita income.

Italy could benefit enormously from high growth rates in Group 4 and surpass Germany's per capita income relatively soon. All these have been explained very thoroughly in previous articles. AntiNWO has examined many different alternatives for a compromise plan. What is presented is the best possible compromise plan. AntiNWO has to AGREE on the SAME COMPROMISE PLAN, like NWO has AGREED on the SAVE DISASTROUS PLAN.

It is totally understood that Turkiye may prefer a group that suits them better, other than the two Groups suggested in AntiNWO's compromise plan. Turkiye could participate in either Group 4 with Greko-Thraco-Illyrian and Kievan Rus countries or in Group 8 with Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan. They could propose another compromise plan but it has to be global and all around.

In the end all AntiNWO should agree on the same compromise plan and hopefully NWO will compromise and accept it. Otherwise things will get tough for a while. NWO will be defeated and they will be prosecuted. They will go to jail for the rest of their lives and all their fortune will be confiscated. Then AntiNWO's prevalence plan will be implemented which is better than compromise plan but NWO will never accept it.

It is very important that all AntiNWO agrees on the same plan. If everybody supports a different plan, then NWO's disastrous plan will prevail. AntiNWO's compromise plan has to be global and supported by everyone. Only the best plan can get support from everyone or almost everyone. The best possible compromise plan is the one presented.

Nevertheless, countries could propose other plans, as long as they are global, not regional. One very important point is that there is a lot of room for fine tuning in all aspects of AntiNWO's compromise plan. That includes grouping. So there could be small adjustments in the composition of the Groups. That will be explained in another article soon.

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