Israel-Turkiye-PCB placement

Israel is not in Eastern Europe. It is in Middle East and surrounded by Arab countries. Suppose that Israel had good relations with Arab countries. It should have been placed together with them in Group 5 due to its geographic location. But Israel had bad relations with Arab countries since 1948, when it became a state. There have been several wars with Palestinians and neighboring Arab countries. In some of these wars, other Arab countries participated against Israel.

We have presented five different alternatives for Israel's placement. We can add a sixth one, in Group 5, where it should be if relations with Arab countries were good. So the six alternatives for Israel are; a) in Arab Group 5 b) in Eastern European Group 4 c) in Western European Group 3 d) in no Group e) US territory f) not exist. The last one is not actually placement but non-existence.

Some Arab and Muslim countries support that last alternative. North America and Western Europe oppose it. It is not something they would ever consider. There are probably many countries around the world that are indifferent. It does not make any difference to them if Israel exists or not. AntiNWO has a neutral position on such a sensitive matter. It is included in the alternatives because it is a possibility, even though unlikely that could ever happen.

AntiNWO does not oppose any of the other five alternatives. All of them are acceptable by AntiNWO. Nevertheless, AntiNWO's recommendation is b, Israel in Eastern European Group. Some people consider this pro-Israeli position. Other think that this is pro-Arab. It is not one or the other. It is something that probably both sides prefer, Arabs and Israelis.

It is certain that the large majority of Arab people do not want any cooperation with Israel. The are divided into two categories. One category supports alternative f, Israel to cease to exist. The other category supports "out of sight out of mind" approach that AntiNWO has followed in grouping. Fighting and conflicting sides are separated to the extent possible. There is also a small minority that supports cooperation with Israel. "Out of sight out of mind" is a middle of the way approach.

Something similar occurs in Israeli side. One category supports hitting very hard by all means some Arab and Muslim countries and weaken them to the extent that they will never be able to cause any harm to Israel. Another category wants cooperation with Arab countries. Again, "out of sight out of mind" is the middle of the way approach. Probably most people in Israel would rather be in Eastern European Group than together with Arab countries.

Turkiye is clearly on Palestinian side. It was one of the main Palestinian supporters. There are two options for Turkiye's placement; a) in Eastern European Group 4 b) in Southwestern Asian Group 8. If Turkiye is in one Group,  ACA (Azerbaijan - Central Asian countries) will be in the other. Initially, AntiNWO was leaning more towards Turkiye's participation in Eastern European Group for reasons that have been explained in previous articles.

According to the approach "out of sight out of mind", Turkiye should be in Southwestern Asian Group 8. Relations with Greece (Hellas) and Israel are not good. It is uncertain if Israel will be in Eastern European Group but it is certain that Greece will be in it. Also, Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Georgia probably prefer ACA since they were together in Soviet Union and are together in CIS. Central Asian countries are Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan.

In AntiNWO's final plan , Turkiye is in Southwestern Asian Group with Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan. ACA are in Eastern European Group and Turkiye is out. One thing should be very clear. It was not AntiNWO, Greece (Hellas), Israel or Russia that got Turkiye out of Eastern European Group. Only one country was responsible for that, Turkiye!. They got themselves out of Eastern European Group.

AntiNWO initially was leaning more towards Turkiye being in the Group even though participation of ACA was also an option. Turkish did not show any appreciation to AntiNWO and did not grasp the opportunity either. They could have been in Eastern European Group, if only they had pledged participation. Instead of that, they were negotiating with NWO to join EU. ACA pledged to join Eastern European Group and this matter settled.

Turkish should only blame themselves for getting out of Eastern European Group. Of course, this could change, if there is a swap between Eastern European and Southeastern Asian Group that will meet the requirements. Nevertheless, Turkiye may prefer to be in a Muslim Group because it seems that they want to have an important role in the Muslim world. They can choose either the Eastern European route or the Muslim. They can't have both.

Turkiye and Israel are close to each other but PCB (Poland, Czechia, Baltic countries) are relatively far from them. What all have in common is the uncertainty regarding their placement. AntiNWO has placed PCB aka German Wannabes in Eastern European Group. Nevertheless, there could be a swap between Western and Eastern European Group, Italy for PCB. Obviously, Italy must want to be in Eastern European Group for that to happen.

But PCB should be extremely cautious. If Italy pledges to participate in Eastern European Group, PCB do not automatically become part of Western. What we know for sure is that Western European voters do not want any Eastern European country in their Group. We assume that they may be understanding of a small and fair swap, involving Italy and PCB. But this is not certain.

It is possible that Western European voters will not be understanding of Italy-PCB swap. In that case, PCB will be left out not only from Western but from Eastern as well since Italy will be in it. PCB will be in no Group. Most likely, Western European voters will support or at least tolerate such a swap. PCB will only have 13% of Western European Group's population. There is another reason Western European voters may accept this swap.

Italy has the second highest debt in EU after Greece. Western European taxpayers had to pay for Greek bailout. In a future economic crisis, Western European taxpayers may have to pay not only for Greece's second bailout but also for Italy's first. Italian economy is eight times larger than Greek. So Western European taxpayers may have to pay much more for Italy than for Greece.

It is not certain that a bailout will be necessary for Italy or Greece in the next economic crisis but it is possible. If Western European voters want to avoid that possibility, Italy and Greece should be out of EU before next economic crisis which is certain that will eventually happen. This is a more important motive than the fact that PCB will only have 13% of the population.

PCB should carefully consider if they want to be only 13% of Slavic countries in a Group of Celtic and Germanic countries. Suppose that they choose Western European Group and Italy chooses Eastern. Stll, PCB should be extremely cautious because Italy's participation in Eastern European Group does not guarantee them that they will be in Western. Their safest bet is to pledge participation in Eastern European Group the soonest possible, before Italy does.

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